Wawancara Antara Masashi Kishimoto Dan Eiichiro Oda
- Kapan kalian berdua pertama kali bertemu?
Kishimoto: "Kapan ya... mungkin di pesta tahun gres JUMP ketika saya masih jadi pemula (di industri manga)."
Oda: "Memangnya ketika itu ya?"
Kishimoto: "Mungkin *tertawa*. Kesan pertamaku ketika itu, beliau (Oda) sudah bagaikan 'guru besar'."
Oda: "Apa yang kau bicarakan?" *tersenyum kaku*
Kishimoto: "Benar kok, habisnya Oda-san sudah 2 tahun lebih dulu memulai serialisasi daripada aku, tiba-tiba saja saya merasa bertemu dengan orang yang luar biasa... Lalu, awalnya saya ingin memanggil 'sensei', tapi beliau bilang kepadaku 'Jangan panggil Oda-sensei!'."
Oda: "Tentu saja, kita 'kan seumuran. Kenapa harus panggil 'sensei'..."
Kishimoto: "Bukan artis memang, tapi kupikir seseorang yang lebih dulu terjun ke suatu industri (dalam hal ini, manga) itu ialah orang yang terkenal (dan lebih berpengalaman jadi patut dipanggil 'sensei')." *tertawa*
Oda: "Aku juga sudah terus memperhatikan Kishimoto-san sejak beliau masih jadi pemula. Gambar buatannya bagus, entah mengapa saya merasa 'aliran' beliau mirip."
Kishimoto: "Aliran??" *tertawa*
Oda: "Itu lho, kenapa ada dougi Kame Sen Ryu ya...begitu pikirku *tertawa* Karenanya dari awal saya sudah berkemas-kemas untuk bertanding (dengan Kishimoto)."
(Notes: Dougi = seragam latihan bela diri. Kame Sen Ryu = anutan bela diri di DRAGON BALL)
Kishimoto: "Sudah siap mau bertanding saja." *tertawa*
Oda: "Karena kita sama-sama berada dalam industri manga, hal ibarat menang-kalah sudah sewajarnya ada. Namun setelah saya bertemu (dengan Kishimoto), beliau terlihat ibarat orang baik. Aku eksklusif tidak peduli akan menang-kalah. Aku tak mampu bertanding dengan orang ini, begitu pikirku."
Kishimoto: "Sama jika begitu. Yah, sebab saya benar-benar mengerti kesusahan yang selama ini dirasakan (Oda)."
Oda: "Wah, saya senang lho. Apa yang dikatakan orang lain padamu dalam masa sulit ialah hal yang terpenting. Karenanya ketika Kishimoto-san yang berada di posisi yang sama (di industri manga) mengatakan "mengerti", saya benar-benar menganggap jika kau memang mengerti (kesusahanku)."
Kishimoto: "Aku benar-benar mengerti kok *tertawa*. Hanya saja kupikir jika dalam kasus (kesusahan) punyaku levelnya masih ringan. Oda-san selalu berusaha untuk menuju puncak, segala kesusahan yang dilewatinya (untuk mencapai itu) sudah pasti levelnya tidak biasa. Kalau saya jadi beliau mungkin bakal tertekan dan stress tidak karuan."
Oda: "Aku sungguh senang mampu berkompetisi dengan NARUTO. Hal yang paling membuatku amat berterima kasih ialah beliau tidak semudah itu untuk dikalahkan. Malah bersama-sama tidak mampu dikalahkan dalam serial mingguan (JUMP), apalagi dunia lebih mengenal NARUTO. Bisa mencicipi frustasi ibarat ini sungguh membuatku berterima kasih. Tidak ada satu eksistensi pun yang mampu membuatku begini selain beliau (NARUTO)."
Kishimoto: "Ketika saya telah menempatkan targetku pada ONE PIECE, saya eksklusif berpikir ingin mampu menang (dari ONE PIECE). Tidak salah lagi, itulah yang saya sadari ketika itu."
(K=Kishimoto, O=Oda) versi inggris
Q: When did you two first meet?
K: When... I think it's when I was still a newbie mangaka. In the Jump new year event.
O: Is that so?
K: Maybe. (laugh) At the time, my impression on him was like he's a great and famous sensei.
O: What're you saying... (wry smile) (Oda was saying 'you're making fun of me' friendly.)
K: Nah... Because Oda-san started the serial run of his manga two years earlier than me. I really thought a super sugoi man had appeared. Later, I addressed him as Oda-sensei, but he said (like begging) that I must not use such a honorific.
O: I took that for granted cos we're at the same age. Why would I listen to your sensei when you're talking to me...
K: Though we're not performers, I think people who stepped into an industry earlier are admirable. (laugh)
O: I'm always aware of Kishimoto's presense when he was a newbie. He can draw very well. To some extent, I felt we may have the same style.
K: What style... (embarrassing smile)
O: It's like the feeling of why you also have the gi of Kamesenryu (Master Roshi from DB). (laugh) From the beginning I've prepared with offensive state. (Oda wanted to win against Kishimoto.)
K: I see, you had that determination back then. (laugh)
O: Because we're both at the stance of manga, eventually there'll be a winner and a loser. However, after I've met with him personally, I found he's really a nice and kind man. It suddenly made me think the result didnt matter. I couldnt compete with a man like him. That's what I thought.
K: I think that's because we both understand each other's hard work.
O: Very pleasing to hear you say that. When you're working hard, it's important to know who said what about you and your work. I sense you, who has the same standpoint as me, really understand how I truly feel, good to know.
K: Yes I do. (laugh) But I think I'm the one who has less pressure. Oda-san, you're always at your peak. Your hard work and that pain must be asing (that normal people cannot bear). If I were you, I guess I would have gastrointestinal perforation due to huge pressure.
O: It's wonderful having Naruto as an opponent. The luckiest thing was you didnt let me get complete victory. Actually, I didnt have complete victory in weekly serialization, besides and most importantly, Naruto is more popular than OP in foreign countries. Though a part of me was not reconciled to that turth, at the same time, I'm grateful. Cos the existence of such a piece of work, is one and only in the world.
K: Same goes for me. Instead of saying OP is my target, I'd rather say I always want to beat it. Seriously, I always think that.
Dialog Wawancara Antara Masashi Kishimoto Dan Eiichiro Oda
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